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Hollingsworth v. Perry (formerly Perry v. Schwarzenegger):
California lawsuit challenging constitutionality of Prop. 8

2013-JUN-26: Still more reactions
to the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling.

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In this web site, "SSM" is an acronym for "same-sex marriage."

"LGBT" is an acronym for "Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals, Transgender persons and Transsexuals."

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Other reactions to the Supreme Court's ruling (Cont'd)

  • Chat Griffin, president of the pro-marriage equality group Human Rights Campaign, said:

    "Today's historic decisions put two giant cracks in the dark wall of discrimination that separates committed gay and lesbian couples from full equality." 1

    During an interview by George Stephanopoulos on ABC's "This Week," Griffin commented:

  • "American values really did win. With the erasing of the Proposition 8, same-sex couples in the state of California started getting married on Friday [JUN-28]. ... We'll fight this battle on all fronts, George. We'll fight at the ballot box where there are opportunities, we'll fight at the state legislature, and ultimately this will come back to our federal courts." 7

  • Tony Perkins, president of the conservative Christian group Family Research Council, said:

    "While we are disappointed in the Supreme Court's decision to strike down part of the federal Defense of Marriage Act, the court today did not impose the sweeping nationwide redefinition of natural marriage that was sought." 1 ("Natural marriage" is a term used widely by religious conservatives to refer to a marriage between a woman and a man. The implication is that a marriage between two lesbians, gays or bisexuals of the same gender is unnatural.)

  • The Rev. Peter Morales, president of the Unitarian Universalist Association (UUA), a liberal religious faith, said:

    Today, the U.S. Supreme Court, the highest court of our country, stood on the side of love with its decision in United States v. Windsor declaring that the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) is unconstitutional as a deprivation of the equal liberty of persons that is protected by the Fifth Amendment. This is a proud and momentous day for all who have suffered under this law and felt discrimination based on their sexual orientation. It is a victory for the principle that civil rights belong to all. In the Proposition 8 case of Hollingsworth v. Perry, the Supreme Court dismissed the appeal over same-sex marriage on jurisdictional grounds, essentially paving the way for marriage equality in California. While I am disappointed that the Supreme Court did not declare the freedom to marry as a constitutionally-protected “equal protection” right that would apply to all states, I applaud this historic step towards equality. ..."

    "Unitarian Universalists have been vocal supporters of marriage equality for decades.  I thank them for their dedicated commitment to our Unitarian Universalist principle of affirming the worth and dignity of every person. There is still so much work to be done to ensure equal protection for all who live and love in our country. As we know, marriage equality strengthens families, protects children, and ensures the basic rights of citizenship for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender couples. It remains my fervent hope that soon marriage equality is afforded to all in this country. Unitarian Universalists will continue to stand on the side of love with all families." 2

His statement is partially in error. The court did not declare DOMA to be unconstititional. Only Section 3 is so designated.

  • The Rev. Bart Day, executive director of the Office of National Mission, of the Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod -- a conservative Lutheran group:

    "...Though the ruling is not a surprise, we are saddened for our nation, even as we call our fellow Christians to faithfulness and prayer.

    As Christians, we believe and confess that God Himself instituted marriage as the life-long union of one man and one woman.  Same-sex unions are contrary to God’s will, and gay marriage is, in the eyes of God, no marriage at all.  As Christians, we proclaim this truth, no matter what the courts or legislatures may say. We are called not to popularity but to truth.  Therefore, we call on our fellow Christians to be faithful first to God’s Word, knowing that another court is ultimately supreme.

    Marriage is a fundamental building block of society, binding parents to their offspring.  Every child benefits from the nurture of a mother and the leadership of a father.  While having one mother is a blessing, having two mothers or two fathers is confusing for the child and detrimental to her well-being.  The divorce culture has done great harm to the institution of marriage as well, and The Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod (LCMS) has and will continue to respond to that heartache with Christ’s comfort while simultaneously working to restore a culture where marriage is upheld. ..." 3

  • Mike Huckabee sent an email titled: "5 People In Robes Are Not Bigger Than God." The five people to whom he is referring are the five Justices on the Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) who voted to legalize same-sex marriage in California and to repeal part of the DOMA bill. His email said:

    "My immediate thoughts on the SCOTUS ruling that determined that same sex marriage is okay: 'Jesus wept'. Five people in robes said they are bigger than the voters of California and Congress combined. And bigger than God. May He forgive us all." 4

It is a main purpose of the U.S. Supreme Court to determine which laws and citizen initiatives are unconstitutional and to overrule them. In that respect, the Supreme Court is bigger than the voters of California in 2008, and Congress. However between 2008-NOV and mid-2013, the voters of California have reversed their beliefs and now support SSM by a healthy majority as shown in the previous essay.

  • Dan Cathy, president of the Chick fil-A fast food chain has made many controversial statements against same-sex marriage in the past. This time, he tweeted:

    "Sad day for our nation; founding fathers would be ashamed of our gen. to abandon wisdom of the ages re: cornerstone of strong societies." 5

Bill Maher on his HBO program Real Time suggested that Cathy must be able to channel the founding fathers who have been dead for centuries, because they have never been known to have expressed an opinion of lesbians, gays, bisexuals, or same-sex marriage while they were alive on Earth.

  • There were hundreds of postings to the article in Bloomberg: 6
    • "Archangel" wrote:

      "Psalms 14:1  The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none who does good.

      The Bible calls you out as a fool. ... I’m a Christian minister who has counseled with many former homosexuals and lesbians over the years and God has not created them to be that way.  Almost all were sexually molested as children and a demonic entity has entered them, told them a lie, and convinced them that they are now gay.  The truth is they are created in God’s image and likeness which includes life, light, and love."

    • "burke01" posted:

      "... This is it, the crowning of moral decadence masquerading as equality.  'Tis the end of western civilization and I daresay this country and others like it will pay a heavy price what with a plunging fertility rate, a spike in disease, even more mental cases and who-knows-what-else."

      It is unlikely that the 3 to 5% of eventual married couples who are of the same-sex will produce a "plunging" fertility rate. It seems obvious to most that if gays and lesbians who are in the single dating scene become married, then the rate of STIs will decrease rather than "spike." Most therapists recognize that homophobia, bullying and rejection cause a high level of mental illness among gays and lesbians. Achieving equality acceptance, and respect should improve their mental health.

  • SaveCalifornia.com® describes themselves as:

    "... your frontline pro-family leader standing strong for moral virtues for the common good. ... SaveCalifornia.com is:

    • Teaching and empowering folks to stand for what's right in God's sight.
    • Shaking up the establishment in government, media and the culture.
    • Challenging liberal forces wherever they attack moral virtue.
    • Boldly speaking and standing strong for Truth, no matter the outcome.
    • Working to reach and impact the next generation with Godly standards."

They issued the following news release on 2013-JUN-26 shortly after the Supreme Court issued its ruling in the California Prop. 8 case:

"SaveCalifornia.com, representing the truth of man-woman marriage supported by millions of Californians, is saddened and disappointed that Proposition 8, reserving marriage licenses for 'a man and a woman' in the California Constitution, has been dashed by the U.S. Supreme Court.

'Sexual behavior does not constitute a civil right, but the Supreme Court has done vast damage to man-woman marriage, the foundation of the natural family.' said Randy Thomasson, president of SaveCalifornia.com, which promotes moral virtues for the common good.

'The high court's refusal to correct the unconstitutional rulings of lower-court judges and the dereliction of duty by constitution-bound state officials demonstrates that not only is natural, man-woman marriage no longer respected but neither is our republic and system of written laws,' Thomasson said.

'Because the high court didn't care about protecting natural marriage or even the initiative process, they have allowed unnatural, homosexual 'marriages' to resume in California as role models for children,' Thomasson said. 'Today, marriage, children, and the rule of law all suffer.'

'Because they refused to do their sworn, constitutional duties to defend in court Prop. 8 as approved by the People of California, Jerry Brown, Kamala Harris, and Arnold Schwarzenegger have infamously created false, homosexual 'marriages' in California, which will greatly confuse children,' Thomasson said.

'The justices had a simple question before them, and the answer is also simple when you abide by the written Constitution,' Thomasson explained. 'First, marriage is not in the U.S. Constitution. Second, the 14th Amendment, which is not about marriage but about race, and not about couples but individuals, does not apply to Prop. 8. Third, the 10th Amendment recognizes states have powers that are not federal powers and that are not prohibited by the Constitution. Fourth, Article IV, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution guarantees a republican form of government to each state, where a written constitution is the supreme law of the state. Fifth, the California Constitution contains Proposition 8 as Article 1, Section 7.5. Therefore, Prop. 8 should have been upheld.'

Thomasson has been defending marriage rights for man-woman marriage since 1994. Together with Liberty Counsel, SaveCalifornia.com filed an amicus brief supporting Prop. 8 with the U.S. Supreme Court."

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References used:

The following information sources were used to prepare and update the above essay. The hyperlinks are not necessarily still active today.

  1. Richard Wolf & Brad Heath, "Justices open door to same-sex marriages in California," USA Today, 2013-JUN-26, at: http://www.usatoday.com/
  2. "UUA President Issues Statement on Historic Decisions on Marriage Equality," Unitarian Universalist Association of Congregations, 2013-JUN-26, at: http://www.uua.org/
  3. Bart Day, "Upholding Marriage: God’s Plan and Gift," The Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod, 2-13-JUN-26, at: http://blogs.lcms.org/
  4. Jessica Chasmar, "Mike Huckabee on Supreme Court gay marriage ruling: 'Jesus wept'," Washington Times, 2013-JUN-26, at: http://www.washingtontimes.com/
  5. Jaymi McCann, " 'Sad day for our nation; founding fathers would be ashamed': Chick-fil-A boss causes outrage AGAIN after tweeting disappointment over historic gay marriage ruling," Daily Mail (UK), 2013-JUN-29, at: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/
  6. Greg Stohr, "High Court Allows California Gay Marriage, Voids U.S. Law," Bloomberg, 2013-JUN-26, at: http://www.bloomberg.com/
  7. Matt Slegde, "National Organization For Marriage President Brian Brown: DOMA Decision 'Absolute Travesty'," The Huffington Post, 2013-JUN-30, at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
  8. "SaveCalifornia.com News Release, 2013-JUN-26, at: http://savecalifornia.com/

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Original posting: 2013-JUN-26
Latest update: 2013-AUG-06
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