MVMO ritual abuse cases
Bakersfield / Kern County, CA
The McCuan and Kniffen Families
This was the first large Multi-Victim Multi-Offender (MVMO) child abuse case in
North America. It was centered in Bakersfield and Kern County, CA. Two couples, Alvin
& Debbie McCuan and Scott & Brenda Kniffen, were tried in 1983, found guilty, and
given centuries-long jail sentences.
The McCuan/Kniffen convictions were overturned on appeal. The two couples were released
from jail in 1996-AUG, after having spent 14 years in prison, isolated from each other.
The McCuan and Kniffen Investigation
The triggering incident occurred in 1980 when Becky McCuan disclosed that her
grandfather, Rod Phelps, had touched her inappropriately. The family doctor confirmed the
abuse. No charges were laid. Becky's mother, Debbie McCuan arranged for her daughter to
obtain counseling. But Debbie's step-mother, Mary Ann Barbour, who is believed to have had
a history of mental illness, felt that her step-granddaughters were not sufficiently
protected. She obtained the assistance of the Mothers of Bakersfield, a group
concerned about child abuse. Jill Haddad took particular interest in the case; she was the
spokesperson for the group, and had many relatives working for local police forces.
Ms. Barbour claimed that Alvin and Debbie McCuan were not good parents, and that
Debbie's day care license should be revoked. She asked the Social Services Department
make a surprise inspection. The social worker, Betty Palko, found no major infractions and
took no action to revoke the license.
Mary Ann Barbour became distressed when she heard that the McCuans had taken their two
daughters on a supervised visit to see the alleged abusing grandfather and his wife. She
is reported to have ended up in the psychiatric ward as the result of a psychotic episode.
At a custody hearing in 1982-MAR, she was able to gain custody of her step-grandchildren.
County officials filed child endangerment charges against the McCuans. At this point, Ms.
Barbour started to believe that a large "sex ring" existed in Kern County. "There
is a group of people involved in molesting the girls. They are all in on it! "
The girls, Becky and Dawn were repeatedly questioned. They confirmed what their
step-grandmother had said. Over many months, their disclosures became increasingly
bizarre. They said that had been hung from ceiling hooks, beaten with belts, rented to
strangers in motels and been forced to act in "kiddy-porn" movies. They claimed
that they were abused by a sex ring which involved their grandparents, their parents,
their father's brothers, friends of their parents (Scott & Brenda Kniffen), the social
worker who did the inspection, a co-worker of their father, and two unnamed welfare
On 1982-APR-6, Becky was driven around the area to the homes of the alleged sex-ring
members. She said that there were pornographic pictures, a sex toy and other evidence in
the Kniffen home. The Kniffens were arrested two days later.
In their six month investigation, police officers ignored many factors:
|rope burns that would have been present if the abuse had happened were absent.|
|markings on the railing where the children said they were tied were absent.|
|there were plant hooks in the ceiling, but they could not have supported a child's
|there were no ceiling hooks in the rooms where the children said there were.|
|there were no patches in the ceiling which would have been left behind if ceiling hooks
had been removed.|
|Both Becky and Dawn told their parents' defense attorney that they had only accused one
of their uncles because their step-grandmother told them to.|
|no pornographic movies, "snuff films" or movie cameras were ever found.|
|there was no evidence of physical trauma to either child, except for that attributed to
the grandfather's alleged assault on Becky.|
|the Kniffen parents voluntarily submitted to polygraph tests which indicated that they
were both innocent. These tests are generally regarded as being accurate between 70 and
90% of the time. The probability of both parents actually being guilty and
both fooling the
polygraph test is about 1 to 9%.|
|Allegations of Satanic ritual murders came up during group therapy. Becky and Dawn led
the police to the spot where they believed that the sacrificed infants were buried.
Neither bodies nor disturbed earth (filled-in pits) were ever found. (Disturbed earth can
be detected centuries after pits are filled in).|
The social worker and her boyfriend (their father's co-worker) were tried separately.
Their lawyer introduced Ms. Barbour's medical records into the trial. This evidence is
believed to have convinced the Kern County District Attorney to drop charges against the
couple. The medical records were then sealed and not permitted to be used by he defense in
the subsequent trial of the McCuans and Kniffens.
The Kniffen sons, Brian and Brandon, were repeatedly and suggestively interrogated. The
interviewers would describe a sex act and then ask the child to confirm or deny that it
happened. When questioned separately, each was told (falsely) that their brother had
disclosed abuse by both the parents and the rest of the sex-ring. Brian and Brandon claim
that they were yelled at and terrorized by the interrogators. They were told that they
could go home again if they testified about the abuse. These manipulative and coercive
interrogation methods are now known to generate false allegations. "Questioning in
Bakersfield went far beyond the definition of leading and was, in fact, coercive,
threatening, brainwashing of young children."
1 Unfortunately, in early 1983,
basic research into child interview techniques was in its early stages; direct
questioning and manipulation of children was common practice.
2 The Kniffen boys finally
caved in under the pressure and said that abuse had occurred.
During a supervised visit Brandon Kniffen was asked by his grandmother whether the
charges were true. He answered "No. None of those things ever happened.".
The grandmother was arrested for discussing the case with her grandchild; she was not
allowed to testify at the trial, and had her visits terminated for years afterwards.
The 1983-4 McCuan and Kniffen Trial
Dr. Bruce Woodling testified that his
"wink response" tests on the children proved that sodomy had occurred. In the
test, the anus is touched with a swab and a reaction is looked for. This test has since
been totally discredited. Controlled tests have revealed that anal winking occurs in both
abused and non-abused children. There was no other hard evidence of sexual abuse. The
McCuans and Kniffens were convicted on multiple charges and given a combined sentence of
over 1000 years.
Brian Kniffen later recanted, and said that he had been told what to say at the trial
and had been promised that he could be with his parents again if he cooperated. His
brother Brandon has also recanted. They have stated that the abuse never occurred and that
they were led and coerced to testify as they did.
Margie Grafton, Tim Palomo, Grant Self and John Stoll:
These Kern County residents were accused of having formed a "sex-ring" to
sexually molest boys over an interval of several months in the mid-1980's. John
Stoll had rented his poolhouse at the back of his house to Grant Self, a
homeless man. Unknown to Stoll, Self was a convicted child molester. John had
recently been divorced after a long and bitter custody fight. His wife is reported to have
spent time in a psychiatric institution and is alleged to have had difficulty separating
reality from fantasy. In 1984, Stoll's ex-wife and a pastor that she was dating filed a
complaint against him for allegedly abusing their son. An unrelated charge was made
against Grant Self. Margie Grafton and her boyfriend Tim Palomo were also
charged. They had often visited Stoll to enjoy his swimming pool. The prosecutors may have concluded that the four defendants might be
involved in a sex-ring, because they all had apartments in the same property.
were interviewed and asked repeated, direct, leading and suggestive questions by Deputy
Erickson. He did not follow the California Commission's "Peace Officers Standards
and Training" manual on interview methods. He said that he had never heard of the
POST manual; he had never taken the training courses recommended in the document. Recent
research shows that the types of questioning used by Erikson will often cause the
children to disclose details about events that never happened.
2 Unfortunately, these
findings were not available to the Kern County officials at the time.
John Stoll was charged with 70 felony crimes; the other three defendants were charged
with fewer. Their trial in the Kern County Superior Court started on 1984-SEP-24.
Four children gave testimony. Child "A" answered that he didn't know or didn't
remember to almost all of the questions raised by the defense attorneys. Child
"V" admitted during questioning by a defense attorney that it is OK to lie, that
it is OK to make mistakes while testifying. He said that he did not know what the oath
was. At one point, he denied that any sodomy had occurred. In violation of court orders,
he spoke to his mother and to a prosecutor overnight. The next day, he
"recalled" acts of sodomy. One of the children testified that he had been in the
Stoll house five times. Actually, he had never been inside. Under cross-examination, he
was unable to describe a single item in the house.
There was no physical evidence to support the charges. The children rarely agreed on
the details of various alleged molestations (e.g. time, place, adults present, children
present). Some of the acts that the children testified about were physically impossible to
commit. The defense attorneys asked that the children be medically examined. The court
denied their request. No medical examinations were ever performed on any of the boys. This was indeed unfortunate, because anal rape of a small child by
an adult will cause obvious wounds that are easily detectable. A medical exam might well
have proven that no sodomy actually occurred. The prosecution made many references to kiddie-porn
-- photographs taken of the sexual molestations. As in other MVMO cases, no such
photographs were ever found and introduced into evidence. The prosecution produced at
court numerous erotic magazines such as Playboy and Penthouse. Some were found in rooms
not rented by the defendants. This probably had the effect of prejudicing the jury. In
fact, the magazines could have been used as an indicator that the defendants were not
pedophiles. If an adult male enjoys "girlie magazines" they are probably
sexually attracted to adult women; this would make it more probable that they were not
attracted to little boys.
The defense attorneys were not allowed to present the POST manual as evidence. They had
hoped to demonstrate the flawed nature of the child interview techniques. Stoll's defense
was poorly prepared; his lawyer only had 24 days to assemble the defense; he was unable to
locate two defense witnesses and to obtain copies of some records in time for the trial.
The judge denied the lawyer's request for a delay in the trial. During the trial, John
Stoll ran out of money. His lawyer repeatedly asked to be relieved of the case; these
requests were denied. Dr. Roger Mitchell, a clinical psychologist, had conducted
psychological tests on Graton and Palomo. He would have been able to give expert testimony
on whether these defendants were sexual psychopaths, but his testimony was not allowed.
Following the trial two children, "J" and "C," admitted in public statements that
they had lied during the preliminary hearing and the trial.
"As early as 1986, a yearlong investigation of the Kern County cases
was done by the California Attorney General's Office. The investigation
concluded that local authorities had used 'suggestive' questioning that led
children to give answers that they wanted. At that time, the 'attorney
general said there was both a shortage of corroborating evidence and that
some alleged victims were simply parroting what they were told in
questioning or what they heard other children say'."
All four defendants were convicted and received long sentences. Margie Grafton and
her boyfriend Tim Palomo had their convictions overturned after eight years in
jail by a California Appellate Court. The basis for dismissal
was that a psychiatric profile which suggested that she was innocent was kept
from the jury. They have not been retried. If they
were retried at this time, the result would undoubtedly be an acquittal. The children's
testimony could be easily shown to be suspect; there is no hard evidence to show
that they are guilty, and no hard evidence to show that abuse actually occurred. Grant Self and John Stoll continued to rot in prison.
By 2004-MAR, Grant Self had been released from prison and is now "...in
a state hospital for mentally ill offenders. He can be kept there until
authorities decide he is not a danger to others."
16 John Stoll
remained incarcerated until 2004-MAY.
Other similar cases in and near Bakersfield CA:
A total of seven additional Kern County cases, generally in the towns surrounding
Bakersfield, were tried in the three years following the McCuan and Kniffen trials. They
also alleged child sex-rings involving other adults. "The prosecutors and
sheriff's investigators...spiced up the cases with allegations of
satanic sacrifices, and said as many as 29 babies had been
killed." 13 All cases involved
same social workers, child abuse coordinators, deputy sheriffs and district attorney. A
very serious error was made by the investigators. They interviewed various children from
numerous cases together. This resulted in cross-germination of ideas among the
cases; elements of one case suddenly popped up in others. Children of different ages
described fictional events using identical terminology. All of this led naive
investigators to conclude that multiple sex-rings were involved.
At one time, 60 children had accused various adults of perpetrating
Abuse. Eventually, the children started to accuse some of the social workers, deputy
sheriffs and deputy district attorneys of being perpetrators of sexual and ritual abuse.
Further investigations and charges ceased at that time. In the later years of these
investigations, the professionals involved may have been aware that at least some of the
children's stories were untrue. The DA, social workers, and police officers may
suspected that they had not sexually abused the children. And yet they proceeded with
similar allegations by these same children against other adults. One is forced to question
their ethical standards. One is also reminded of the witchcraft cases in Salem, MA, in the
1790's. Those accusations also only ceased when the children accused the wife of the
Governor of being a witch.
The Kern County Grand Jury had asked the Attorney General's office over a period
of two years to investigate the interrogation methods used in these child sexual abuse
cases. Their request was stonewalled, until a local newspaper, the Sacramento Bee
learned of the matter. Jim Boren was a reporter at the time and is now the
editorial page editor. He recalls this time. He wrote:
"The [Sacramento] Bee stories finally caught the interest of the state
Attorney General's Office, and a yearlong investigation concluded that local
authorities had used 'suggestive' questioning that led children to give
answers that they wanted. The attorney general said there was both a
shortage of corroborating evidence and that some alleged victims were simply
parroting what they were told in questioning or what they heard other
children say. In many cases, young children were interviewed numerous times
by authorities until they finally admitted to being molested. In one case an
alleged victim had been interviewed 35 times before giving the 'right'
answer that his parents had molested him."
"A 10-year-old boy was hypnotized after denying that he had been molested
by his family. The boy was in county protective custody for almost two
months when he was administered 'reassuring hypnotic messages,' according to
investigative files. He finally told investigators what they wanted to hear
-- he'd been molested by his parents and others."
"Public pressure then forced the Attorney General to take action.
Released in 1986, the investigation revealed that there had been 23 major procedural
errors in the McCuan/Kniffen case and similar 'sex-ring' cases. The techniques
used by the DA's office, sheriff's department and social workers were severely criticized.
Unfortunately, the inquiry did not take the logical step of urging judicial review of the
Although some have had their convictions overturned, other innocent people, convicted
over a decade previously, continued to rot in jail. In early 2004, John
Stoll was the final innocent person to be released. Dozens of children have been at least partly
disabled by horrendous memories of events that probably never happened.
The 1996 McCuan and Kniffen Appeal
Mike Snedeker, lawyer and co-author of Satan's Silence
3 has appealed many
"sex-ring" cases to the 5th District Court of Appeal and the California Supreme
Court. He won 14 reversals. On 1995-JUL-15, an evidence hearing was held on a request
for a new trial for the McCuans and Kniffens. The hearing focused on the two issues that
are common to many MVMO cases:
|child suggestibility during manipulative interviews involving direct, repeated
questioning of sexual abuse|
|the worthlessness of the anal wink test that was so influential in
convicting the defendants.|
Brian Kniffen, now 20 years of age, testified on JUL-25 how he was coerced and badgered
at the age of six by social workers and district attorneys. Interviewed after the closed
hearing, he said "I believed my mother's words when she said to do what these
people said. And I believed them...when they promised I could go home if I just said it
all had happened. So I did. ...And I never did go home.".
4 Commenting on district
attorney Andrew Gindes, he said "He would slam books down, yell when we wouldn't
cooperated. He was demanding and scared us and wouldn't take no for an answer...I wish I
could talk to him now and ask him... why, why did he do that to me?" Brian lived
in a total of 16 foster homes, some of which were abusive. When he was 13, his
grandparents, Dick and Marilyn Kniffen, were finally able to obtain custody. His brother
Brandon, age 23, testified that he had never been molested by his parents and that he only
agreed to say so after many grueling interviews. He related "For a long time I
felt deserted by my family...I didn't know that all along they were trying to see me, get
custody. I just thought they had forgotten about me."
On 1996-AUG-12, Judge Jon Steubbe of the Kern County Superior Court overturned the
convictions of both the Kniffens and McCuans, and ordered their immediate release. His
main reason was that the "the interviewing techniques used to obtain
information from the minors were fraught with undesirable consequences."
5 They had
been in prison for 14 years and isolated from each other for crimes that they did not
commit -- in fact for crimes that never happened. Ed Jagels, the current Kern County
District Attorney, described the case as being currently "unprosecutable"
and has declined to retry the Kniffens and McCuans.
The Kniffens, parents and sons, have been able to reunite into a loving, supporting
family. But the boys have since grown into men. The parents were absent from their lives
for 12 years. Becky and Dawn McCuan have never recanted their court testimony. Their
original accusations, obtained through improper interrogation methods, have probably
coalesced into false memories. They probably believe that they were ritually abused over a
decade ago. They have had no contact with their parents in 12 years.
The Jeffrey Eugene Modahl appeals:
One of the many adults caught up in the Bakersfield Satanic panic was Jeffrey Eugene
Modahl. He, and several others, were accused by his daughter, Carla Jo Modahl-Owen. She
was the only witness at several trials in the mid-80's. He was convicted of 10 counts of
child molestation in 1986. He received a sentence of 48 years
Jeffrey Modahl obtained an appeal in 1987. By this time, Carla had recanted her trial
testimony and testified that she had not been abused. But the appeal failed; the judge
ruled that her trial testimony was believable but that her later recantation was not.
On 1997-DEC-26, a Superior Court judge granted Modahl another "habeas corpus"
hearing. Jeffrey was then 43 years of age. Carla, then aged 23, stated that
neither her father nor four other co-defendants molested her. Jeffrey Modahl's lawyer,
Jeanne W. Peden, has obtained a tape recording of a 1984 interview of another alleged
victim. It shows that the children were subjected to questioning which is (by today's
standards) incompetent and liable to generate false memories. Penden says that the "leading
and suggestive nature [of the interview is] explosive."
Superior Court Judge John I. Kelly found that the new tape demonstrated that
the interviewers used techniques "likely to generate false and
unreliable accusations." Modahl, was finally freed in 1999-MAY after
having spent 15 years behind bars,
John Stoll's appeal:
Stoll described his arrival in prison: "I was terrified. I knew the
odds weren't real good that I wasn't going to get stabbed going to prison as
a convicted child molester." He created a cover story that he had been a
drug runner. A fellow prisoner had visited the prison law library and found
out about Stoll's case. But before he could spread the information, he was
involved in a prison riot and relocated. In early 2004, nineteen years after the charges were brought, John Stoll
remained the only one still held in prison out of the 39 persons who had
been convicted of sexual child abuse. At the age of 60, he had spent
most of the previous two decades in jail.
Stoll came to the attention of the California and Northern California
They are part of the National Innocence Network which links similar
groups across the U.S. "Innocence Project students work alongside
practicing criminal defense lawyers to seek the release of wrongfully
convicted inmates who maintain their factual innocence."
11 His case was reviewed by judge
John Kelly on 2004-MAR-15. Four of the six boys who testified against him in
his original trial recanted; they said that they were forced to
lie. One said that he doesn't remember what happened. The sixth male, his son,
Jed Stoll, continues to maintain that he was molested. Justin Brooks, of the
Project, said that Jed: "...testified
in the preliminary hearing, and at the trial, that he had lied, multiple
times. And he testified in this hearing multiple times that he had lied. The
only thing that he keeps sticking to is, 'I know I was molested.' And that
makes sense, because Jed Stoll was told he was molested his entire life."
Innocence Project attorney Jill Kent said in closing arguments on
MAR-15: "Mr. Stoll's conviction hangs on the falsehoods told by
frightened and confused children 20 years ago. It was all a result of
suggestive questioning." Kern County officials defend Stoll's
conviction. Prosecutor Lisa Green told the judge: "These kids were
telling the truth back then and they are not for whatever reason today."
Stoll's lawyers won a major victory during the hearing. Judge Kelly agreed
to accept the testimony of defense experts that would compare Stoll's case
with that of Jeffrey Modahl. Judge Kelly had overturned
his conviction in 1999, partly because the investigators had coerced false
testimony from the child witnesses. The same investigators had also
interviewed Stoll's accusers.
Kathleen "Cookie" Ridolfi, a professor at Santa Clara University School
of Law and executive director of the Northern California Innocence Project,
said: "These witnesses were forced to tell lies that robbed a man of 20
years of his life and robbed them of their innocence. The children grew up
knowing an innocent man was sent to prison because of something they did.
John Stoll is a victim but so are the boys and their families. The biggest
crime of it all is the District Attorney's continued refusal to assume
responsibility for any of it. Without accountability, we won't learn from
the mistakes, we'll just keep making them."
Judge John Kelley denied bail to John Stoll. 9,10,11
"After a lengthy hearing, Judge Kelly noted that prosecutors had
presented no physical evidence at the original trial and that none of the
six children who accused Stoll had been examined by doctors. The case rested
solely on the children's testimony that the defense contended had been
coerced. Four of the six accusers recently testified that they had lied on
the stand, saying they were coerced. Unfortunately, Stoll's son has stuck to
the original claims he made during a bitter divorce and custody fight."
On 2004-APR-30, Judge Kelley vacated Stoll's conviction, saying that "The petitioner
has met the burden of showing that the interview techniques ... resulted in
unreliable testimony from child witnesses." Stoll walked free on MAY-4
and celebrated a meal with his lawyers on his 61st birthday. "He has no
other family left. His mother, who paid for his defense, died while he was
behind bars." He remains estranged from his son. 12,14,16 District
Attorney Ed Jagels still believes that the convictions were warranted. He
issued a statement saying: "My office remains convinced on the
evidence presented at the 1984 trial and 2004 evidentiary hearing, that the
children were, in fact, molested by John Stoll."
Follow-up in the media:
|2004-OCT-22: The TV program Dateline NBC
devoted an entire episode to the Bakersfield child sex abuse rings.
They reported that: "....a total of 39 people were convicted as a result of
the Bakersfield sex abuse prosecutions. Ten were given probation, 29 people
went to prison. Of those 29, 23--including John Stoll--had their convictions
overturned. Of the remaining six, three were released after serving their
sentences, one woman died of cancer while in prison, one man remains in
Williams, on the Montel Williams Show interviewed two of
Margie Grafton's sons: Alan and Donald who testified against their
mother twenty years ago, along with two of their friends from the
neighborhood: Eddie and Victor. They explained to Williams how they were
pressured by the police to say that they were molested when they were
six to eight years of age. They later testified in court even though
they did not believe that any molestation happened.
|Victor, referring to the police
interrogation, explained: "I just kept saying nothing
happened. They just kept asking the same questions over and over."
|Ed said: "...they kept on pressuring us and pressuring us and
told us that, you know, 'This is a terrible man. You need to help to
get him off the streets. And we'll just leave you alone. It'll all
go away if you tell us you've seen something.' You know, and they
|Donald said: "they--they explained to me that it would be
over sooner. I'd get to see my mother sooner. I'd--it would all go a
lot--a lot more smoothly for my mother if I went along with their
story. Now, I was told my--by my dad to tell the truth. I told the
truth in the preliminary hearing. As then dur--as soon as the
preliminary hearing, I was took back with the--the--the prosecutors,
and they said, 'We're going to have to keep putting you on that
stand until you get it right'."|
|Margie Grafton and John Stoll mentioned that they took and
passed a battery of psychological exams and polygraph tests.
However, they did not seem to have any impact on the attitude of the
|Montel Williams was able to persuade Donald to look his mother
in the eye and to hold her hand while they were on the show. He had
been unable to do either for the past two decades.
In our opinion,
none were guilty of the crimes of which they were convicted. We suspect that no
ritual molestation occurred. The human cost is enormous -- both to those
who were incarcerated, the children who were convinced to testify that they had
been abused, and the public who believed (and probably still believe) that
they live in a society with enormous levels of child sexual abuse.
- Carol Hopkins, News Release, The Justice Committee, 625 Broadway, Suite 1111, San
Diego, CA 92101. Issued 1996-AUG-11.
- S.J. Ceci & M. Bruck, "Jeopardy in the Courtroom: A Scientific Analysis of
Children's Testimony", American Psychological Association, Washington DC (1995).
- Debbie Nathan & Michael Snedeker, "Satan's Silence",
New York NY (1995), P. 170
- "Kniffen Sons Want Parent Back:. Bakersfield Californian 1996-JUL-26.
- Untitled article, Bakersfield Californian 1996-AUG-13
- Grant Self, CDC D02741, California Men's Colony, P.O. Box 8101, San Luis Obispo,
California, 93409-2101 (Address contains a numeric error)
- John Stoll, then #CDC D15734, Avenal State Prison, P.O. Box 9, 210-2-40L, Avenal, California,
- Fred Ludwig, "More molestation convictions under attack,"
The Bakersfield Californian, 2000-JAN-15, at: http://www.bakersfield.com/backgrnd/molest5.asp
- Brian Skoloff, "Judge won't let convicted Bakersfield child molester
post bail," Associated Press, 2004-MAR-15.
- "Lou Dobbs tonight," CNN, 2004-MAR-15.
- Deepa Arora, "Attorneys With the Innocence Project at Santa Clara
University Work to Free California Man; Five Witnesses Recant Testimony That
Convicted John Stoll of Child Molestation," Santa Clara University,
- "Judge Overturns Molestation Convictions," Associated Press,
- Jim Boren, "Botched child molestation cases meted out injustice,"
- Brian Skoloff, "Wrongfully imprisoned for child molestation, man posed
as a drug runner for his own safety," Associated Press, 2004-MAY-8.
- "John Stoll Released," FMS Foundation Newsletter,
- "Profile: Secrets & Lies; Accused members and victims of Bakersfield
child sex abuse rings," Dateline NBC, TV program, 2004-OCT-22.
- "The Bakersfield Witch Hunt: Guests talk about how they were, as
children, forced to lie about being sexually abused," Interview, The
Montel Williams Show, Fox Network, 2004-NOV-08.
Copyright � 1997 to 2005 by Ontario Consultants
on Religious Tolerance
Latest update: 2005-APR-11
Author: B.A. Robinson